seems slow around here lately :(
are people hibernating?
here's a song my cousin and i started last night, and i did some more work on this afternoon...
http://www.box.net/public/aarpezk5yl
its sort of a john carpenter-esque thing or something. but with lots of congas. really messy congas with lots of delay. you probably gotta be a pretty cool dude to be able to handle it, probably. basically that means its pretty muddy and sloppy and unlistenable. im borrowing my roomates guitar effects box thing, so i'm having a field day with delay...
any thoughts? im working only in audacity right now, which im enjoying but there are some pretty debilitating drawbacks to the program. any suggestions as to how i might make things sound better (without making them sound cleaner/gooder, you know)?
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Radddd. It's def. very john carpenter-esque. I don't think it sounds that dirty sloppy muddy or unlistenable.. And I think that maybe that's because it's very cinematic and it feels like a score -- the kind that uses synths almost like foley. So the randomness can be anything -- people running, the rain, a chase scene. The drums remind me of the peter gabriel music from the last temptation of christ. in a good way.
Great post Total Cool Dude. I was wondering where everyone went as well..
Hey.
I'm acually in Florida, but it turns out internet is slow here too. Probably because of gators.
I hope to listen to your muddy house songs as soon as I get out of this house in the swamp.
In terms of your software, I would def. try to get a copy of logic express. I like it because it doesn't get in the way, you know what I mean? Like it's really straight forward to record to a track and layer stuff, etc. And it only starts hurting on my g4 if there are like 24 tracks all with effects on each of them. But you don't need effects anyway because you've got real gear, so it would probably run really smoothly. Plus digital effects are lame, though sometimes inevitable. it would be cool if someone made a computer with a built in spring reverb thingy and analog delay..
i got logic express the other day, actually. my audio interface thing only records in mono (!!!), so i was having trouble recording w/ logic, because i couldn't figure out how to change the recorded audio tracks to mono....i only spent about 3 minutes trying, tho, and then went back to audacity...
i'll give it another shot later today, prolly...is logic vst compatible? how are the built-in effects (im sure better than audacity's, especially judging how nice your dream-pop song was sounding)...
I don't think I've used VST stuff before, but I think they're supported. I found this page just now, http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/html/faq06.htm#15 it looks like a pretty solid faq.
As for the stereo / mono thing: each track has a fader (either on the left hand side of the screen when you select the track, or if you double click it and get the mixer). The volume fader has a circle button underneath it. If you click it when it's mono, the audio level indicator splits into two to become stereo.
But I think maybe you're saying that it pans to one channel when you record? That I'm not too sure how to fix..
Actually, here's the plug-in faq: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/html/faq19.htm#top
cool, thanx for the links.
yeah, when i record, all the sound goes to the left channel (or right channel, i can't remember exactly). in audacity, i have to split the stereo channels, then make the channel w/ sound mono. there's probably an easy way to do this in logic...
THis rules! Totally puts me in the ZONE! I agree with g-reg's firt comment: very listenable, very cinematic - obviously perfect for a HORROR flick, but I'm also getting a high-tension-cautionary-drama vibe, like pre 1990-something. Boy pulls up to girl's house for date. Boy is wearing leather and its raining so he waits in the car. He lets the girl open the passenger door herself. He scopes her crotch in the review while she climbs in. They drive off from her suburban neighborhood to the wrong side of town... LOL! Rage against the machine just came on shuffle!
You should make that video, man. How hard can it be?
Cool dude, I like this track a lot - I don't find it too sloppy, in fact because there are pretty regular beats and melodies you could layer even more sloppiness on top. I wish the higher frequencies were addressed more directly (read: louder) with some of the noisy stuff.
The reason this track sounds like a soundtrack (other than the key) is because it has a very simple structure - basically layering and taking away. It's all part A, all verse, no chorus. This is a structure that I often work with as well, and it leads to a feeling that you don't know where you are in the song. I kind of feel like you have made a conscious decision to do this with this song, that you are using this to focus on the tonality of the music and make people space out. This song might actually be better if it was longer.
Have you recently made a song with either vocals or with a verse-chorus-verse structure (or something more complicated)? Why or why not?
if it sounds in any way like i don't know what im doing, that's probably pretty accurate :P
im going to adjust the levels and eq and shit. it's pretty dense...
if i choose to re-record the song, i probably will extend it. the break in the middle could be a little longer, i think, and the end segment could be twice as long...
one reason im drawn to the simpler structure lately is because i have to do everything quasi-live with my current set up - and since i'm not a very apt musician, i work better with looser structures. it's hard for me to map out a tightly knit pop song with key changes and shit without a solid visual corollary. of course, i'm also really driven towards spacey, druggy, structureless music, so it works out ok.
but i actually am planning on working on some more, you know, song-based, vocal-driven stuff in the very near future, although the structure will still probably be sort of loose and errmm...'jammy'.
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